The Judicious Mr. Hooker and the Episcopal Church
I'm sorry for yet another Anglican post, but I fear this is of interest to others of other churches as well.
I'm reading a bit of Richard Hooker, often considered the primordial Anglican, or at least the first Anglican rationalist. And for that, he is sometimes enlisted by the liberal strand within Anglicanism as a sort of founding father (itself ironic, for it seems strange that liberals would make appeals to authority. But I digress). Among other things, he got himself in a big broohaha because of a sermon he preached in which he suggested that many of his English forbears, although led astray by popish errors, may well nevertheless, in the mercy of God, be saved. When the puritans flipped out about that, he preached another sermon to defend himself, "A Learned Discourse on Justification."
In it, as we might expect from a very rational thinker, he makes distinctions, perhaps the biggest being the difference between ERROR and HERESY. Error is what we do in our papers all the time, we make mistakes: but if we're corrected by the truth of God's Word, we humbly submit. Heresy is when we obstinately oppose ourselves to the truth of God's Word, even after a brother or sister (or council) has attempted to lead us out of our error. Good stuff, that.
So, his popish forbears were undoubtedly in error, because they believed that they were saved, not by Christ alone through grace by faith, but by works as well. But they weren't heretics, because they sinned in ignorance, and no one corrected them. They were in error; and, to paraphrase St. Peter, love covers a multitude of theological errors. And besides, surely on their deathbeds thousands of poor English farmers said something like, "I am a poor sinner, and I trust in Christ alone, he is my only Savior."
Now for the second distinction. One could either deny the foundation of the Christian faith DIRECTLY or INDIRECTLY. What might that involve? Well, he's pretty plain about the foundation: "salvation purchased by the death of Christ." This, of course, includes the identity of Christ (viz., Nicene and Chalcedonian orthodoxy), his saving work, and, by derivation, sola gratia, sola fide. In short, Saracens and infidels deny the faith DIRECTLY, because they do not confess what we confess in the Creeds. Papists deny the faith INDIRECTLY: they confess the Creeds, they believe in salvation through Christ alone, but their confusion of inherent for external righteousness denies by consequent that salvation is, strictly, through Christ alone.
Now, the interesting thing is that Hooker pulls together his two distinctions. If a papist, who denies the Faith indirectly, does so merely in error: surely we should not doubt that God, in his mercy, will grant salvation to him as well. But if that same papist obstinately insists that apart from works he cannot be saved, he is a heretic, and his indirect denial of the foundation becomes, shall we say, more dangerous. But there is still hope, says Hooker, because even the stubborn papist still denies the foundation only indirectly: he still confesses the Nicene Creed.
Then he makes this really interesting observation, again because he is a very rational man. He points out that the ancient fathers had two major sorts of arguments on their hands: first, against those who denied the faith DIRECTLY (Origen contra Celsus); second, those who did so INDIRECTLY (Augustine contra Pelagius). Those of the first sort had to prove the foundation; those of the second argued from the foundation, and showed thereby why their opponents were indirectly denying it. It doesn't do any good to argue from the authority of Scripture or the Creeds that, say, God is Trinity, if one is arguing with someone who doesn't accept those authorities. On the other hand, if you're dealing with an Arius who really does believe that the Bible is the Word of God, then your conversation is going to be of a different sort. This is all very much like Thomas, by the way; that's why Hooker is interesting.
Which all leads to my question. Is it really fair to call, say, Spong, a heretic? I have in the past, and I'm starting to wonder about that. I think he's really a pagan. And the same goes for others of a like mind. What do you guys think? And, how do you think this changes the way we should craft our discussions/arguments on this front?
Now the hard question. "All infidels deny the foundation of faith directly: by consequent, many a Christian man, yea whole Christian churches, have denied it, and do deny it at this present day. Christian churches denying the foundation of Christianity? Not directly, for then they cease to be Christian churches; but by consequent, in respect whereof we condemn them as erroneous, although for holding the foundation, we do and must hold them Christian." If Hooker could say that about Rome, and justify the English schism, I can't even begin to imagine why I should have any scruples about "splitting" from the Episcopal "church." That's not my question. My question is simply, has TEC denied the faith directly? Is the Episcopal church, a church?
I'm reading a bit of Richard Hooker, often considered the primordial Anglican, or at least the first Anglican rationalist. And for that, he is sometimes enlisted by the liberal strand within Anglicanism as a sort of founding father (itself ironic, for it seems strange that liberals would make appeals to authority. But I digress). Among other things, he got himself in a big broohaha because of a sermon he preached in which he suggested that many of his English forbears, although led astray by popish errors, may well nevertheless, in the mercy of God, be saved. When the puritans flipped out about that, he preached another sermon to defend himself, "A Learned Discourse on Justification."
In it, as we might expect from a very rational thinker, he makes distinctions, perhaps the biggest being the difference between ERROR and HERESY. Error is what we do in our papers all the time, we make mistakes: but if we're corrected by the truth of God's Word, we humbly submit. Heresy is when we obstinately oppose ourselves to the truth of God's Word, even after a brother or sister (or council) has attempted to lead us out of our error. Good stuff, that.
So, his popish forbears were undoubtedly in error, because they believed that they were saved, not by Christ alone through grace by faith, but by works as well. But they weren't heretics, because they sinned in ignorance, and no one corrected them. They were in error; and, to paraphrase St. Peter, love covers a multitude of theological errors. And besides, surely on their deathbeds thousands of poor English farmers said something like, "I am a poor sinner, and I trust in Christ alone, he is my only Savior."
Now for the second distinction. One could either deny the foundation of the Christian faith DIRECTLY or INDIRECTLY. What might that involve? Well, he's pretty plain about the foundation: "salvation purchased by the death of Christ." This, of course, includes the identity of Christ (viz., Nicene and Chalcedonian orthodoxy), his saving work, and, by derivation, sola gratia, sola fide. In short, Saracens and infidels deny the faith DIRECTLY, because they do not confess what we confess in the Creeds. Papists deny the faith INDIRECTLY: they confess the Creeds, they believe in salvation through Christ alone, but their confusion of inherent for external righteousness denies by consequent that salvation is, strictly, through Christ alone.
Now, the interesting thing is that Hooker pulls together his two distinctions. If a papist, who denies the Faith indirectly, does so merely in error: surely we should not doubt that God, in his mercy, will grant salvation to him as well. But if that same papist obstinately insists that apart from works he cannot be saved, he is a heretic, and his indirect denial of the foundation becomes, shall we say, more dangerous. But there is still hope, says Hooker, because even the stubborn papist still denies the foundation only indirectly: he still confesses the Nicene Creed.
Then he makes this really interesting observation, again because he is a very rational man. He points out that the ancient fathers had two major sorts of arguments on their hands: first, against those who denied the faith DIRECTLY (Origen contra Celsus); second, those who did so INDIRECTLY (Augustine contra Pelagius). Those of the first sort had to prove the foundation; those of the second argued from the foundation, and showed thereby why their opponents were indirectly denying it. It doesn't do any good to argue from the authority of Scripture or the Creeds that, say, God is Trinity, if one is arguing with someone who doesn't accept those authorities. On the other hand, if you're dealing with an Arius who really does believe that the Bible is the Word of God, then your conversation is going to be of a different sort. This is all very much like Thomas, by the way; that's why Hooker is interesting.
Which all leads to my question. Is it really fair to call, say, Spong, a heretic? I have in the past, and I'm starting to wonder about that. I think he's really a pagan. And the same goes for others of a like mind. What do you guys think? And, how do you think this changes the way we should craft our discussions/arguments on this front?
Now the hard question. "All infidels deny the foundation of faith directly: by consequent, many a Christian man, yea whole Christian churches, have denied it, and do deny it at this present day. Christian churches denying the foundation of Christianity? Not directly, for then they cease to be Christian churches; but by consequent, in respect whereof we condemn them as erroneous, although for holding the foundation, we do and must hold them Christian." If Hooker could say that about Rome, and justify the English schism, I can't even begin to imagine why I should have any scruples about "splitting" from the Episcopal "church." That's not my question. My question is simply, has TEC denied the faith directly? Is the Episcopal church, a church?